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Post by striperjohn on Jan 13, 2016 20:22:19 GMT -5
Re color. What difference does anyone think it makes? I mean they sell you red lures that attract fish. Then they sell you red/ pink line that the fish can not see. Really? It can't be both. Not being a wisea#$ but really. The best leader used by most saltwater Captains is Ande. Thats from a survey BoatsUS took a couple years ago. Yes they make pink, and green and clear. ;D Cheers John.
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Post by jmr04 on Jan 13, 2016 20:51:21 GMT -5
I don't know. Probably doesn't make a bit of difference. But I have caught a pretty nice amount of fish with it myself and been on the guide boat and have seen it catch a ton of fish there. I think it's more about confidence in what your using. Given what I've seen and experienced the five dollars extra vs clear is worth it. When you factor in all of the other costs involved in this sport; boat, gas, rods and reels, bait tank, electronics, nets I'd hate to think I was costing myself fish skimping on floro given the fact I probably spend less than $100 per year on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 8:52:50 GMT -5
I don't know. Probably doesn't make a bit of difference. But I have caught a pretty nice amount of fish with it myself and been on the guide boat and have seen it catch a ton of fish there. I think it's more about confidence in what your using. Given what I've seen and experienced the five dollars extra vs clear is worth it. When you factor in all of the other costs involved in this sport; boat, gas, rods and reels, bait tank, electronics, nets I'd hate to think I was costing myself fish skimping on floro given the fact I probably spend less than $100 per year on it. I couldn't agree more. Confidence in your gear is key. As soon as you start to question the little things such as leader material etc., you distract yourself from the real issue... That being you.
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Post by slammer on Jan 14, 2016 9:07:20 GMT -5
Have you considered fishing with Artificials??
Being a teacher and living that close would be perfect for that. You could be on the water every evening and fishing within minutes. Thats all I do is artificials, havent caught a shad in 15 years. I have a fish n ski as well and would not mind taking you along one day if you want to fish artificials. No shad in my boat. LOL.
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Post by jsn on Jan 14, 2016 9:57:52 GMT -5
Have you considered fishing with Artificials?? Being a teacher and living that close would be perfect for that. You could be on the water every evening and fishing within minutes. Thats all I do is artificials, havent caught a shad in 15 years. I have a fish n ski as well and would not mind taking you along one day if you want to fish artificials. No shad in my boat. LOL. Yea, I've been thinking about that too. I see so many people trolling with planers I thought that was the best way to catch them. What do you think the catch ratios are comparing artificial to live bait? It would make things a whole lot easier but since so many people spend the time and money on live bait I would think it pays off. Thanks for the offer on the trip, I'd be up for that it would be a good learning experience for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 11:41:05 GMT -5
There are times when artificial will out fish live bait. Like right now when the birds are working.
However, you probably have a better chance at catching fish more consistently throughout the year and bigger fish with live bait.
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Post by Jason54 on Jan 14, 2016 12:22:40 GMT -5
I used to fish only artificial. I caught a lot of fish but the size of the fish has been much bigger using gizzards. At least for me anyway. Plus there is nothing like seeing a big striper smash a gizzard on top. I seeing that don't get your heart pumping you may be dead.
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Post by jsn on Jan 14, 2016 12:25:39 GMT -5
There are times when artificial will out fish live bait. Like right now when the birds are working. However, you probably have a better chance at catching fish more consistently throughout the year and bigger fish with live bait. A couple weeks ago I put in at Crystal Shores and rode up past what I call the S curve to the big marina on the right. I think it is called Indian Point. There were a few boats there fishing. They were trolling, some had boards out but it looked like some who were trolling didn't have boards. I had some of the pearl flukes with me so I casted them out the back of my boat and trolled around for awhile. I did some casting to the shoreline as well but never did any good. I didn't see anybody else catching anything either though. I'm sure there were lots of things that I was doing wrong but I was there and figured I would at least give a go. I will probably go this weekend again and do some casting since I'm not set up for live bait yet. I will probably see if I can get a few of the different artificial that have been previously mentioned.
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Post by drag4striper on Jan 14, 2016 12:37:22 GMT -5
I was over at the Kerr site and saw you (think it was you) holding up a really nice catfish, congrats on it. How much did that thing weight?
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Post by jsn on Jan 14, 2016 12:40:50 GMT -5
I used to fish only artificial. I caught a lot of fish but the size of the fish has been much bigger using gizzards. At least for me anyway. Plus there is nothing like seeing a big striper smash a gizzard on top. I seeing that don't get your heart pumping you may be dead. How hard is it finding bait? When I fish the tidal James I use a 50ft gill net, and I've gotten to be quite familiar with ins and outs of that body of water. I have virtually no experience with a cast net. There are enough how to videos on youtube so I can figure out how through it properly but as far as the where and when of catching bait I have no idea.
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Post by jsn on Jan 14, 2016 12:49:04 GMT -5
I was over at the Kerr site and saw you (think it was you) holding up a really nice catfish, congrats on it. How much did that thing weight? Yea thats me. That's from one of my trips on the James. I had my daughter with me that day. In total we caught over 350lbs of catfish. We caught big fish everywhere we dropped lines. That was the day she had her personal best of 50+ lbs. At the time I only had a 50 pound scale and it was maxed out on that fish. I went online the next day and bought 125lb digital luggage scale. The fish in the picture you saw I think was around 42lbs. Thanks
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Post by Jason54 on Jan 14, 2016 13:11:02 GMT -5
Finding and catching bait is definitely the key. A good sonar will help. The easiest way is to see them flipping. Some days its easy some days not so much. I have spent as little as 20 to 30 min. loading the tank before but also spent 6+ hours trying to catch bait. It can be very frustrating and also ultra rewarding. Catching the bait is fun in its self. all part of the addiction.
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Post by striperjohn on Jan 14, 2016 13:26:41 GMT -5
Yeah but sometimes you end up chasing bait when the fish are biting. Real bummer.Lol. Most of these guys won't admit it but if you could sell bait on this lake you'd have major business! "Give me a doz large shad and 2 dozen moneymakers." Deal!;D
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Post by jsn on Jan 14, 2016 13:40:22 GMT -5
Yeah but sometimes you end up chasing bait when the fish are biting. Real bummer.Lol. That's what I'm concerned with
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Post by mwardncsu on Jan 14, 2016 13:55:25 GMT -5
Yeah but sometimes you end up chasing bait when the fish are biting. Real bummer.Lol. That's what I'm concerned with JSN - I encourage you to do some searching on the forum from where StripedYam 1st introduced himself here - a self-professed artificial jigging nut - then follow the time-lineage of his post & videos as he was introduced to live-bait and the transformation he then went under until today...... then ask yourself if you are ready for such a journey... then ask yourself again.... and again......
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