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Post by g7evans on Feb 4, 2013 10:54:22 GMT -5
Coming down at the end of Sept. fishing from a small bass boat. Boat s carpeted. Usually fish with hickey livers but can get messy. Any advise regarding cut bait (bluegill, etc..) or possibly using dough bait?
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Post by mytoyzfishing on Feb 4, 2013 21:52:04 GMT -5
I only use cut or live bait, shad or bluegill with the occasional hotdog or night crawler thrown in.
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Post by Shadslinger on Feb 4, 2013 22:03:31 GMT -5
Assuming you are coming to target channel cats then cut shad, blue gill, night crawlers or dough baits will all be sufficient. I would be targeting Flatheads if I were you using "LIVE" Bluegill hands down. Focus on shallow water flats or secondary points in the middle to back of the creeks from midlake to the rivers.
Man I cant wait for the water to warm up and flatheads start biting...Every time I watch wicked tuna and them dang clickers go off I think of flatheads..... ;D
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Post by g7evans on Feb 5, 2013 19:35:22 GMT -5
Never used it bait before. I'm assuming just catch a few bluegill and cut chunks back fin to belly or do I fillet and use those pieces? How big do I cut them?
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Post by catsnstripers on Feb 5, 2013 20:40:00 GMT -5
You can leave that doughbait, store prepared bait on the shelves... IT dont work.
Chicken livers work good for channel cats and bullheads. You'll catch a few larger fish, but if your looking for a 1-4lbers for eating then you should fair well...
Live bait and cutbait work well..
Flatheads is a predator, live bait is a main target, and effecient bait.. Fresh cut bait can work too..
Cut bait can be shad, alewives, bluegills, carp and suckers.. Depending on the size of fish you want to catch or that swims in the waters, relate that to the size of bait you cut up.. Big gizzards Can be cut into small chunks or steaks for smaller fish. Peanuts or alewives cant be used whole with 1-3baits per hook. Bluegills can be cut just like big gizzards... Carp and suckers can be filleted and cut into cubes or strips and used that way.
I belive I wrote and little thing here somewere, you may do a little research on some older post on this forum and find something better and more detailed info..
Travis
CatsNstripers
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Post by Red Bear on Feb 12, 2013 13:01:45 GMT -5
chicken livers and shrimp are fine for eater sized channel cats if thats what you want. shrimps arent near as messy as the livers are.
seems like when temps start cooling down, which they might be by the end of september, cut bait works the best for me in the cooler water. ive used bluegill, white perch and even yellow perch. i will fillet it or cut it into 3 chunks(head, middle, tail).
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Post by g7evans on Feb 13, 2013 13:50:10 GMT -5
Thanks for all the tips. I normally just Carolina rig the livers. Do I wanna do he same with cut bait or use a different approach.
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Post by riverdawg1 on Feb 15, 2013 11:19:25 GMT -5
yeah Carolina rig. may also want to put a few lines out with a slip cork rig at different depths
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Post by stien on Feb 21, 2013 17:42:51 GMT -5
One bait that I've not seen mentioned, carp. It proved to be the smoke'n hot bait one night at Buggs. We had caught a few small carp (5-8in.) in the throw net and my friend insisted they go in the bait bucket as he had heard the luck from using them. Turns out to be the only thing Flat heads would take that night (over shad or bluegill). Typically if cutting the bait into pieces, the head has proven to be the choice buffet item. Madtoms are suppose to also be great bait, however, I've only seen one and didn't get to use it.
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Post by catsnstripers on Feb 22, 2013 17:39:12 GMT -5
Baby carp are awesome. So is white perch, problem is finding and abundance of them at all times when bait search.. small crappie and redeyes are awesome to.. i caught the same flathead, twice on a palm sized crappie... i released him, andnot 2 mins later he demolished another small crappie i had out... all baits listed above i have used and proven affective as cutbait.
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Post by g7evans on Mar 3, 2013 14:19:40 GMT -5
Any chance a striper may hit a catfish rig with cut bluegill?
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Post by catsnstripers on Mar 4, 2013 16:08:27 GMT -5
Cut shad, alewive or even chicken liver would be a better chance at a striper.. ive caught a few stripers from live bluegills. But not many. Some of the biggest stripers ive caught in SML came while cutbaiting.
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Post by wishforfish on Mar 4, 2013 17:51:49 GMT -5
Funny you mention those chicken liver stripers. I never did it but a bunch of guys down on the bay used chicken livers for stripers in their chum line. We usually used cut bunker...
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Post by Red Bear on Mar 7, 2013 12:38:37 GMT -5
i have no problem finding an abundance of white perch. the cove i fish from the bank is loaded with them it seems. if i catch nothing else, im gauranteed some small white perch on night crawlers. i usually catch them on a drop shot rig with a small gamakatsu splitshot/dropshot hook or a gold abeerdeen hook...carp are another story, i have no luck catching them...
also, ive caught a striper that went 7.5lbs on chicken livers on a carolina rig from the bank, my aunt sent a picture to the smith mtn eagle paper and they printed it, right above me was Travis/catsnstripers with a 17lb striper putting me to shame lol...
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Post by catsnstripers on Mar 8, 2013 10:42:28 GMT -5
I belive i remember that, i think i told the ole lady. Look at that guy, chicken livering it up...
When i was a teenager, We use to hit carvins cove in the spring and sling a handful of small surf rods from the bank with chicken livers for stripers. We'd set them in pole holders with those copper bells while we walked the bank casting plugs... We caught alot of stripers, some well in the 30+ inchs.. If the fish weren't biting then we'd usually sit in the woods in a haze listening for copper bells.... For some reason the walk back always seemed slower....
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