iasus
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Apr 18, 2013 19:47:46 GMT -5
Post by iasus on Apr 18, 2013 19:47:46 GMT -5
Decided to take my dad this time. Launched at Moorman and struggled to find bait. Ended up getting about a dozen small 4-6 inchers and 4 nice 10 inch gizzards. Went down to Beaverdam creek and managed to get a lot of hits. Some would pull the planars for about 20 feet before we set the hook, but had an issue of pulling the bait free. Definitely frustrating, but managed to land one nice 32" striper and a 22" channel cat. We didn't use any weights and got about 10 solid strikes. I am using size 8 treble hooks, but was hoping some of you could tell me what size hooks you use because I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Should I go up in size or hook them somewhere other than between the nostrils? I did notice that the bigger baits got nailed hard unlike the smaller 4-6" baits. I'm thinking the fish just prefer them and don't question the bite. Lost a mammoth that hit a bait right beside the boat. Made my dad's striper look like a baby. I would estimate it somewhere close to 40" and fat. Took me out deep and wrapped me around a snag 60' deep in the channel. Anyways, I'm prolly gonna try my luck again later next week after some turkey hunting in between. Appreciate any info on the hook situation!
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Apr 18, 2013 20:21:55 GMT -5
Post by Shadslinger on Apr 18, 2013 20:21:55 GMT -5
Use 5/0 to 7/0 Gamakatsu Octopus J Hooks on your big gizzards, run a 6" or so leader off of the hook with a treble. Hook the regular hook in the mouth and out the nostril and stick one hook of your treble in the vicinity of the butt hole. More so on your big baits that treble will hook up the fish. On your smaller baits I use 3/0 to 5/0's.
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Apr 18, 2013 20:22:43 GMT -5
Post by catsnstripers on Apr 18, 2013 20:22:43 GMT -5
On smaller baits such as the med size shad. I run a 5/0 gammakatsu octopus hook.. as for those big 10inchers i go to a 7/0 gammakatsu octopus hook. I always snell tie my hooks aswell as ... i belive the rest your doing right...
As for those fish diving to the trees... get use to it.. ive lose countless studs to the trees and other snags. When you can tell a fish is diving. Lock your thumb on the spool and pull back hard, try to turn him.. you may pull the hook or bust your line. But the way i see it, your going to lose him anyways.... dont tighten your drag at all. Use your thumb as a brake to stop the drag if need be. Bc if you get the fish turned, your gona need your drag, and you wont realize it until its to late....
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Apr 18, 2013 20:25:04 GMT -5
Post by catsnstripers on Apr 18, 2013 20:25:04 GMT -5
One thing about those trebles is i try not to use them bc a fish can take that treble in the throat or gills and he'll be done for sure then...
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Apr 18, 2013 20:25:10 GMT -5
Post by mwardncsu on Apr 18, 2013 20:25:10 GMT -5
Nice day - sorry about that big one.
I use 2/0 Octopus (not circle) hooks on smaller gizzards and alewives- up to 5/0 or even 7/0 on mongo gizzards. Hook them through the mouth out one nostril.
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BentRod
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Apr 18, 2013 20:41:48 GMT -5
Post by BentRod on Apr 18, 2013 20:41:48 GMT -5
You need much bigger hooks on the big shad. With 10" or bigger shad..you need at least a 6/0 Octopus or jhook. I've used 6/0 and 7/0 octupus all spring. I haven't used anything smaller except on moneymaker size shad, I may use a 5/0. Keep the small hooks for alewives..they're completely different. The Shad Taxi uses 8/0 and 10/0 octupus hooks on shad..he doesn't play around. I believe Catsnstripers uses big hooks as well. You can also use a stinger hook on the biggest shad if you'd like.
I hook them in the mouth and out the nostril. The bigger hooks will pull out of the shads mouth easier and also allow more of the hook to be exposed from the bait.
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Apr 18, 2013 20:44:01 GMT -5
Post by BentRod on Apr 18, 2013 20:44:01 GMT -5
Whoops, ya'll all posted while I was typing and had gotten distracted for a minute. What they said, except for Mward..be careful what you take from him!!
30lb mono for those tree seeking fish! I still lose em to the trees, though not as many. I lost one in 12ft of water the other day to the only stump in the entire area. I cried for awhile.
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iasus
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Apr 18, 2013 22:36:55 GMT -5
Post by iasus on Apr 18, 2013 22:36:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the info guys. I feel like I need to upgrade my tackle since there's potential for much bigger striper than what I'm used to at claytor and elsewhere. Right now we have 1 fiberglass rod and 3 graphite's, but I'm looking for another fiberglass rod for that softer touch. There were times that I wish I had more planar boards, but by the time they get here I'm sure the season will have passed. One board on each side just doesn't seem to cut it! I do have another question. How long does this planar board season last in the river portion of the lake usually? I'm hoping to stick to the same tactic if I come back in a week or so.
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BentRod
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Apr 21, 2013 6:24:43 GMT -5
Post by BentRod on Apr 21, 2013 6:24:43 GMT -5
Planer board season lasts through June usually. Starts back in September, October and runs through December or really back to June if you wanted to.
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