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Post by bushwacker on Jun 12, 2017 6:41:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know about setting a boat trailer or know a place I could take mine near Penhook. I have had my Hydra-sports 21 skiff for almost a year now and it is very difficult to load back on the trailer. I spend a lot of time on Sundays getting it loaded and it's frustrating and a little embarrassing. I've had boats my whole life and never had an issue loading them. This is my first CC boat of this size. Every time I try to get it centered on the bottom roller it wants to kick right and comes off the bottom roller. Even if I get it on the roller once I try to power up to the top bump stop to latch the winch it will slide off the bottom. I think the trailer just needs to have the winch stand and bunks adjusted. I believe the last owner switched out the trailer with another one before he sold it so I am not sure it was set up for this boat properly. There is at least 12"-18" of bunk sticking out past the back of the boat once it is loaded. If I get the trailer too deep I can't get the bow up over the top roller and if I am not deep enough I can't power all the way up to the top roller. Thanks for any help.
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Post by seajay on Jun 12, 2017 8:52:07 GMT -5
I would maybe check with Scott at Smith Mountain boat and tackle. He is in penhook and been in the business a long time. He should be able to take care of it or at least give you some advise on fixing the issue.
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Post by bushwacker on Jun 12, 2017 9:22:13 GMT -5
Thanks I will run by there when I am down next time.
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Post by KB on Jun 12, 2017 13:15:50 GMT -5
Send me pics of trailer with out boat and with boat I may be able to help you.
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Post by archenemy on Jun 12, 2017 15:44:24 GMT -5
Does anyone know about setting a boat trailer or know a place I could take mine near Penhook. I have had my Hydra-sports 21 skiff for almost a year now and it is very difficult to load back on the trailer. I spend a lot of time on Sundays getting it loaded and it's frustrating and a little embarrassing. I've had boats my whole life and never had an issue loading them. This is my first CC boat of this size. Every time I try to get it centered on the bottom roller it wants to kick right and comes off the bottom roller. Even if I get it on the roller once I try to power up to the top bump stop to latch the winch it will slide off the bottom. I think the trailer just needs to have the winch stand and bunks adjusted. I believe the last owner switched out the trailer with another one before he sold it so I am not sure it was set up for this boat properly. There is at least 12"-18" of bunk sticking out past the back of the boat once it is loaded. If I get the trailer too deep I can't get the bow up over the top roller and if I am not deep enough I can't power all the way up to the top roller. Thanks for any help. I had to do this a couple years back. I bought a new trailer for a boat I was purchasing but had never seen. I asked the seller to take a measurement from drain hole to the bow eye. If you drop a line down straight from the bow eye you then measure from there to the hole. Sent the measurements and some pics of the boat to my trailer guy and he got me in the ball park. I went to get the boat and and from front to rear is fit perfectly. I got the boat on the trailer so I could see how to line up the bunks with the strakes. pulled the boat off, made adjustments, and it fit real well. I know you have rollers so it's slightly different. I had a roller trailer and solved that problem by adding guides. I could look back when pulling the boat out and tell whether it was on there right if not I would back it in just enough to get the stern to float then pull forward slowly to let the boat set down lightly. My new bunk trailer is the only boat trailer I have owned that is automatic. All other rollers have been a pain. Maybe you know all of this already but figured I would share my experience. |
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Post by bushwacker on Jun 12, 2017 16:01:10 GMT -5
Does anyone know about setting a boat trailer or know a place I could take mine near Penhook. I have had my Hydra-sports 21 skiff for almost a year now and it is very difficult to load back on the trailer. I spend a lot of time on Sundays getting it loaded and it's frustrating and a little embarrassing. I've had boats my whole life and never had an issue loading them. This is my first CC boat of this size. Every time I try to get it centered on the bottom roller it wants to kick right and comes off the bottom roller. Even if I get it on the roller once I try to power up to the top bump stop to latch the winch it will slide off the bottom. I think the trailer just needs to have the winch stand and bunks adjusted. I believe the last owner switched out the trailer with another one before he sold it so I am not sure it was set up for this boat properly. There is at least 12"-18" of bunk sticking out past the back of the boat once it is loaded. If I get the trailer too deep I can't get the bow up over the top roller and if I am not deep enough I can't power all the way up to the top roller. Thanks for any help. I had to do this a couple years back. I bought a new trailer for a boat I was purchasing but had never seen. I asked the seller to take a measurement from drain hole to the bow eye. If you drop a line down straight from the bow eye you then measure from there to the hole. Sent the measurements and some pics of the boat to my trailer guy and he got me in the ball park. I went to get the boat and and from front to rear is fit perfectly. I got the boat on the trailer so I could see how to line up the bunks with the strakes. pulled the boat off, made adjustments, and it fit real well. I know you have rollers so it's slightly different. I had a roller trailer and solved that problem by adding guides. I could look back when pulling the boat out and tell whether it was on there right if not I would back it in just enough to get the stern to float then pull forward slowly to let the boat set down lightly. My new bunk trailer is the only boat trailer I have owned that is automatic. All other rollers have been a pain. Maybe you know all of this already but figured I would share my experience. My trailer is a bunk trailer has four bunks the only roller is right at the very bottom in the front. I think it's more If a guide. |
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Post by archenemy on Jun 13, 2017 6:57:48 GMT -5
I had to do this a couple years back. I bought a new trailer for a boat I was purchasing but had never seen. I asked the seller to take a measurement from drain hole to the bow eye. If you drop a line down straight from the bow eye you then measure from there to the hole. Sent the measurements and some pics of the boat to my trailer guy and he got me in the ball park. I went to get the boat and and from front to rear is fit perfectly. I got the boat on the trailer so I could see how to line up the bunks with the strakes. pulled the boat off, made adjustments, and it fit real well. I know you have rollers so it's slightly different. I had a roller trailer and solved that problem by adding guides. I could look back when pulling the boat out and tell whether it was on there right if not I would back it in just enough to get the stern to float then pull forward slowly to let the boat set down lightly. My new bunk trailer is the only boat trailer I have owned that is automatic. All other rollers have been a pain. Maybe you know all of this already but figured I would share my experience. My trailer is a bunk trailer has four bunks the only roller is right at the very bottom in the front. I think it's more If a guide. I have seen that before but never had one. My guess is it's there to prevent the hull from hitting the frame on a steep ramp. |
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Post by archenemy on Jun 13, 2017 7:03:59 GMT -5
I had to do this a couple years back. I bought a new trailer for a boat I was purchasing but had never seen. I asked the seller to take a measurement from drain hole to the bow eye. If you drop a line down straight from the bow eye you then measure from there to the hole. Sent the measurements and some pics of the boat to my trailer guy and he got me in the ball park. I went to get the boat and and from front to rear is fit perfectly. I got the boat on the trailer so I could see how to line up the bunks with the strakes. pulled the boat off, made adjustments, and it fit real well. I know you have rollers so it's slightly different. I had a roller trailer and solved that problem by adding guides. I could look back when pulling the boat out and tell whether it was on there right if not I would back it in just enough to get the stern to float then pull forward slowly to let the boat set down lightly. My new bunk trailer is the only boat trailer I have owned that is automatic. All other rollers have been a pain. Maybe you know all of this already but figured I would share my experience. My trailer is a bunk trailer has four bunks the only roller is right at the very bottom in the front. I think it's more If a guide. Forgot to mention. Even though you and I both do it the trailer dealer in Baltimore told me not to drive the boat on the bunks to the roller. I guess that's why they call them float on. Looked at the manual and it said the same thing. |
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Post by bushwacker on Jun 13, 2017 8:16:47 GMT -5
My trailer is a bunk trailer has four bunks the only roller is right at the very bottom in the front. I think it's more If a guide. Forgot to mention. Even though you and I both do it the trailer dealer in Baltimore told me not to drive the boat on the bunks to the roller. I guess that's why they call them float on. Looked at the manual and it said the same thing. If I try to float on I have to put the trailer deeper in the water and the bow will not come up over the bow bumper. Maybe I need to lower my winch. I think the ramp I use is right steep so it hits that bottom bumper every time. I have to take my trolling motor off when I unload the boat or my trolling motor hits the bow bumper on the trailer as well. |
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Post by archenemy on Jun 13, 2017 8:34:35 GMT -5
Since you have that 12" - 18" of extra bunk in the rear I would move that winch stand back. Without a pic I'm winging it but it sounds to me like the bow is diving into the space between where the bunks end and the winch. If you close that Gap then the bunks will be supporting and lifting the boat more towards the bow and raising the bow eye up this eliminating some of that "fall" you get when putting in. Pm me if this wasnt clear.
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Post by bushwacker on Jun 13, 2017 8:57:46 GMT -5
I understand what your saying. That is kind of what I was thinking. just wasn't sure to move the bunks or the winch.
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Post by archenemy on Jun 13, 2017 9:12:29 GMT -5
I understand what your saying. That is kind of what I was thinking. just wasn't sure to move the bunks or the winch. Well that's the tough part. You want the tongue weight to be just right and balanced for driving purposes. You could move both. You also need to keep the weight of the boat evenly distributed over the axle(s). Boats are heavy in the ass end as you know. Another option and maybe the best is to get the guide bunks in place of the roller near the front. That will push the bow up when loading and keep it up to clear the TM when unloading. Like this   |
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Post by johnr on Jun 13, 2017 9:33:06 GMT -5
Yea those lower-forward bunks are the ticket! Arch is right on with his assessment.
Also, since it seems like you have a lip and trouble hitting with the trolling motor, you need to leave less trailer in the water and drive it up so the boat is angled correctly to clear the roller. Of course, you need those lower-forward bunks to do it.
I had a very troublesome Carolina skiff that would always hang on the trailer. I ended up making 4x6 bunks for it and doubling the carpet layers. I sprayed the forward half with silicone spray and barely had the trailer in the water to retrieve it. To launch, I had an anchor mate tied to the bow eye and my trailer, backed it down the ramp and spiked the brakes and the boat would slide right off and into the water, without catching on the roller. It was kinda sketchy launching like that at forst, but with some practice it worked well.
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