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Post by smlfishing on Mar 27, 2017 9:36:05 GMT -5
We ran 4 bank side PB, 2 creek side PB one float and one freeline all no weight with about 6-8' behind the boards. Bait was all good size with 5 mongos mixed in. I did not try the stinger hooks as I kept thinking what JohnR said either a big one is going to take it or not so why risk a hook in my finger. We had several swirls and right much action but the guys I had with me would not leave the rods alone and would pull every time they pulled back of course releasing the planer board. We changed our position to BR about the time the wind started blowing. Has anyone had any trouble from the boat house to ski course with an Osprey? He picked up one board which we were able to pull it away from him which I was really glad I did not use stingers this trip but he came back almost like he was checking each board hovering in the wind. I know it was the incorrect thing to do reinforcing his bad habits but I threw the dead mongo back behind us letting him get it so he would leave us alone he was very persistent. We circled the ski course 4 time getting swirls and nervous bait finally picking up 3 all 10-12lbs range. When you are getting swirls and attention but no hook up does it help to shorten the length behind the board to restrict the baits area it can move or is it generally smaller fish?
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Post by johnr on Mar 27, 2017 9:47:42 GMT -5
I (almost) always keep a short leash on my planer board baits. The exception is when fishing alewives away from the bank, like I would in late May and June. Otherwise, 5' behind the board is good for me. I like to keep the bait trapped at the surface, so do the fish.
Ospreys will do that at times. Just ask YAM!
Also, I think YAM has video of what those swirls are. A couple fish trying to kill the bait prior to eating it has always been my thought and his videos sort of confirmed that. A lot of times when I get a swirler, I just freeline that board and stop the boat, tangles be damned. Let em kill it then give them time to eat it. I know it's said stripers don't relate to structure or cover, but I disagree. Sometimes I think they are hesitant to travel too far from "home" to eat, which is why I stop the boat and freeline the board, giving them more time in their area to eat it. It seems to work sometimes.
Sometimes, it turns out to be a few small fish that couldn't eat a money maker if it had to.
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Post by mwardncsu on Mar 27, 2017 9:58:40 GMT -5
The Ospreys were bad about that a few years ago when bait was tough - haven't been as bad recently. A few crazy yells usually sends them away
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Post by smlfishing on Mar 27, 2017 10:26:49 GMT -5
The Ospreys were bad about that a few years ago when bait was tough - haven't been as bad recently. A few crazy yells usually sends them away I thought that as well but we yelled and waived the rods but it actually appeared like he was checking each board to see what they had on them. He had no fear to swoop down and pick that mongo back up when I threw it out. I felt afterward I only contributed to the problem by reinforcing PB equal food but after payment I was rewarded with 3 fish.
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Post by quackquackboom on Mar 27, 2017 12:20:45 GMT -5
We were in there that morning. He/She wouldn't leave us alone either.
Also had very long chases before the take. Actually saw one shad stunned and dragged for a while before it came back to and started swimming again.
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Post by mwardncsu on Mar 27, 2017 12:21:49 GMT -5
You can also do a quick reel on the board to snatch the bait away from it as it dives. Just hopefully a fish isn't blowing up on it at the time - of course that may just get the fish to eat
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Post by smlfishing on Mar 27, 2017 13:33:03 GMT -5
Quack.. It has been awhile since I have fished BR but that bird knows a PB equals food. That is exactly what the fish did to us and I made it worse giving them long leashes. Mward that bird came out of no where all I heard was drag.... although I was not watching to intently for an aerial attack
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Post by mwardncsu on Mar 27, 2017 13:38:56 GMT -5
although I was not watching to intently for an aerial attack It's combat fishing out there these days!
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Post by ikMOON on Mar 27, 2017 15:11:47 GMT -5
smlfish I agree with Johnr, stripers like to knock their shad silly or dead before they eat it some days, and I think the bigger the bait the more often it happens. I've had to train myself to ignore swirls and smacks and wait for possession before I reel down on him. The last big fish I caught nailed a 12" bait, all I saw was it laying on the surface stunned. I waited I know 4-5 seconds before it came back and inhaled it head first. I've also seen the same thing topwater plug fishing the river where I would foul hook them after a blowup sometimes. Even had a larger cow smack my plug into the air and then nail it after it landed. And as for them holding to structure, more than a few times I have hooked up after circling and re-pulling the same spot I was swirled on (which is less difficult with two boards on a kayak), so I'm becoming skeptical of that "striper don't care about structure/cover" saying as well.
Haven't encountered the SML Osprey yet. I have in the ocean though--not fun--those chickens do have large talons.
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