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Post by smlfishing on Apr 27, 2016 8:20:23 GMT -5
With the mix bag it seems like everyone has been catching my kids talked me into letting them enter this. I know we stand a better chance at searching the lake for the rubber ducks for prizes than catch a 41" striper but lightning could strike. Luckily we live in the BW area so we would be close but will probably make a trip to the dam but my question would be how would you keep one of these fish alive? Does anyone recall, when you caught the green fish or SM on planers if it was ales or gizzards? Been awhile since I have seen both my kids working together so well I am sure this will end if we catch something and they both go for the rod. Looking forward to a great weekend. |
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 27, 2016 8:40:33 GMT -5
41+ have been caught this year.... it can happen. The other year Tyler and a buddy caught one that they weighed in (when length was 38") - and would have won them 2nd if they had made it to the final check-in/awards a few minutes earlier  They put it in a 100 gal stock tank with a pump & aerator and as cool of water as they could get and ran wide-open throttle down to the weigh-in while one kept the fish up-right, moving it as you would to revive it - the fish swam off strong after being weighed in. If you have a larger live-well on the boat that's long enough with a aerator I'd try the same - just keep the fish up-right and try to have it oriented to get flow across it's gills. There are also things called "striper tubes" - but none available locally that I know of - basically a tuna tube with an aerator/pump flowing water in the pointed part of the tube and overflows the top - and this sits in a larger container that holds the water - fish goes in head-first/down. Theory is it helps the fish relieve the built up lactic acid from its blood - the fish do release strong from them after being in them 30 min or so - my issue has always been the tail hanging out exposed on the larger fish. As to the green & brown fish...... we've picked up some green-carp on money-maker or so gizzards - and a small, smallie on ales. |
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Post by smlfishing on Apr 27, 2016 9:27:45 GMT -5
I agree, as long as you have a line in the water anything can happen. Did they put the pump hose in its mouth or just in its direction? Thanks for the information.
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 27, 2016 9:47:49 GMT -5
just in the tank.... not in its mouth directly
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Post by BentRod on Apr 27, 2016 10:06:53 GMT -5
We actually didn't have a pump in the tank at all (we weren't really prepared - was on Friday after work with like an hour of daylight left and our first spot just happened to be a good one!), but I would recommend it for water flow through the gills - just anywhere in the tank to the get the water moving - I wouldn't put it in their mouth.
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Post by smlfishing on Apr 27, 2016 10:59:25 GMT -5
Thanks BentRod, that is when those things always happen.
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Post by Gator on Apr 27, 2016 11:21:22 GMT -5
- I wouldn't put it in their mouth. Why wouldn't you put it in thier mouth? Have you experimented with ram ventilation ? |
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 27, 2016 11:33:57 GMT -5
I guess I'd be worried about the force of a 500 gph pump - not sure what they intake in terms of gph and pressure on their own.....  |
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Post by Gator on Apr 27, 2016 11:53:15 GMT -5
I guess I'd be worried about the force of a 500 gph pump - not sure what they intake in terms of gph and pressure on their own..... I'd think not with 500gph; that kind of velocity would be detrimental to survival. The water oxygen tension (PwO2) would have to be significantly lower. I'm sure you have watched the shark week shows where they sustain a large shark with ram ventialtion. I'm sure the same methods could be used to keep a fish alive. |
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 27, 2016 12:36:04 GMT -5
They you go all talking like a Marine Biologist and stuff again....... |
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Post by Gator on Apr 27, 2016 12:51:47 GMT -5
They you go all talking like a Marine Biologist and stuff again....... I knew that was coming!!  archenemy can chime in too |
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Post by smlfishing on Apr 27, 2016 14:17:42 GMT -5
Gator that was the first thing I thought of when I asked this question.
CPR concept is so much easier, like you guys do. I would hate to be the guy who brings the musky from the Roanoke side in a bouncing boat.
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Post by johnr on Apr 27, 2016 14:24:32 GMT -5
I think cold water would be the absolute biggest help in keeping a fish alive, but not so cold that the fish is shocked
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 27, 2016 14:27:42 GMT -5
Gator that was the first thing I thought of when I asked this question. CPR concept is so much easier, like you guys do. I would hate to be the guy who brings the musky from the Roanoke side in a bouncing boat. Just hold the musky with your hand in its mouth - it'll be fine |
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Post by BentRod on Apr 27, 2016 14:55:11 GMT -5
I don't know about other species, but they'll accept the striper half dead basically - the above was just if you want to actually keep it alive and release it. Most guys roll up with it in the live well half dead and then just throw it on ice after they've weighed it.
Most all other species are relatively easy to keep alive for short periods if you keep them in water. Stripers are the big babies of the group.
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They put it in a 100 gal stock tank with a pump & aerator and as cool of water as they could get and ran wide-open throttle down to the weigh-in while one kept the fish up-right, moving it as you would to revive it - the fish swam off strong after being weighed in. If you have a larger live-well on the boat that's long enough with a aerator I'd try the same - just keep the fish up-right and try to have it oriented to get flow across it's gills. There are also things called "striper tubes" - but none available locally that I know of - basically a tuna tube with an aerator/pump flowing water in the pointed part of the tube and overflows the top - and this sits in a larger container that holds the water - fish goes in head-first/down. Theory is it helps the fish relieve the built up lactic acid from its blood - the fish do release strong from them after being in them 30 min or so - my issue has always been the tail hanging out exposed on the larger fish.
