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Post by justin on Jan 9, 2016 18:10:23 GMT -5
Been fishing in the back of beaver dam early this fall and even up until a couple of weeks ago been slaying them. Abundant bait and graphing fish everywhere. Went out today and totally different. Marked no fish nor bait in the back so I came on out torwards the islands and marked a lot of fish but not a lot of action. Drove on out torwards main channel and noticed some gulls diving and a lot of boats so I am sure fish were there just curious if in colder weather do these fish start moving on back out to main channel around jumping run? A lot has changed for me in their pattern in 2 weeks. Weather change make a difference? Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 18:40:26 GMT -5
Justin, You've been a member for well over a year AND have been slaying the fish AND you don't post up a report (actually never have) ---- yet you want someone to answer your question about patterns? .... you get out of this place what you put into it...
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Post by justin on Jan 9, 2016 18:47:08 GMT -5
Wow. Think I will just keep fishing to figure this out myself.
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Post by pullingdrag on Jan 9, 2016 19:43:00 GMT -5
Man , somebody must've had a rough day on the water or just couldn't go......
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Post by striperjohn on Jan 9, 2016 20:02:56 GMT -5
No, I agree with bigun. You don't make reports when you are catching fish(slayin them) and share with the board. Yet when it gets tough you come to the board whining for help. Two way street guys.
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Post by seaduck on Jan 9, 2016 20:50:42 GMT -5
I haven't fished sml yet. Mostly fish gaston and buggs. I do read this forum for the good reports with great pics and stories. I also understand where biggun is coming from. You can't say you've been killing them and since your bite slowed you want help. Gotta give info to receive it. I report on Kerr proboards as often as I go out and many folks there have helped me. Good luck on the new season!!
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Post by Gator on Jan 9, 2016 22:24:54 GMT -5
Justin, the fish must have recognized your boat and high tailed it. Don't worry they'll forget all about you once Yam and Pete roll in. Happens to me all the time. Nice reports yammy
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Post by tblspoon on Jan 10, 2016 9:04:39 GMT -5
It's hard to tell if there is sarcasm in the replies or not. A year of fishing for some people might be five or six trips. Slaying them for some people might be three or four fish. Catching bait for some people might be twenty thirty peanuts. I read the reports daily, have only posted a couple reports. Main reason is that my reports can not compare to most on here or I don't think that they would be helpful to the quality of interesting reading that is now a norm. When I do report, I give location ex.. BayRock, trussle, Mormans, tennis courts. I have noticed that location is missing in many reports which I understand, since you spend many upon many hours on the lake and there are a lot of guide services that might take advantage of that information. With all of that said, I would think that if a "member" asked if the striper patterns have moved out towards the main channel, the other "members" would answer "yes they have, you fellow fisherman". Just saying...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 9:37:15 GMT -5
It's hard to tell if there is sarcasm in the replies or not. A year of fishing for some people might be five or six trips. Slaying them for some people might be three or four fish. Catching bait for some people might be twenty thirty peanuts. I read the reports daily, have only posted a couple reports. Main reason is that my reports can not compare to most on here or I don't think that they would be helpful to the quality of interesting reading that is now a norm. When I do report, I give location ex.. BayRock, trussle, Mormans, tennis courts. I have noticed that location is missing in many reports which I understand, since you spend many upon many hours on the lake and there are a lot of guide services that might take advantage of that information. With all of that said, I would think that if a "member" asked if the striper patterns have moved out towards the main channel, the other "members" would answer "yes they have, you fellow fisherman". Just saying... I tend to agree. Providing a report is tough to begin with. Too much info and you get blasted. Not enough info and you get blasted. Too many reports, too few.... It gets confusing. I saw Justin's comment as a conversation stirrer rather than a plea for help. And I would rather error on the naive side for the chance to make a new fishing friend or receive good info in the future. To address the question, personally, I don't bog myself down with strict adherence to past patterns. I just rely on the now. Your analysis has indicated that the fish have started moving to the channel. Thus, fish the channel too but don't give up on the back. It wouldn't surprise me if the fish move out eventually searching for warmer water. However, with the bait being right there, right now, them lazy, fat fish probably ain't going anywhere too far away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 10:15:25 GMT -5
I don't mind when someone doesn't agree with me...... everyone is entitled to their opinion... I call it like I see it.... well, smell it in this case...... I knew before I posted my reply, that some of the more naive members would answer the question.....
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Post by striperjohn on Jan 10, 2016 11:00:49 GMT -5
I think I understand why some of you guys are so upset over some of our concerns with your not reporting. I refer you to my Thread under Rules etc "Message to Lurkers". Since I started that 7 new people have posted reports, thus goal attained IMHO. Now, yes some on here have made reporting into book length and major movie productions (Yam, Mward to name a couple) and yes they are entertaining. But you don't need pictures or glossy write-ups to make a report. I don't have time for multiple pictures or movies when I'm fishing so you get a verbal report and if you don't believe it that's fine with me. Mward helps run this site and his reports IMHO draw people to it and that's a good thing. But it's not a competition of reports it's a sharing of information. If you report date and times fished, AT, WT, fish caught, (if you want to add size that's up to you) methods used I don't care about locations as I'm going to give you uplake (meaning above the bridge) or downlake. I might throw in a creek but there are only a few creeks up lake and it's not hard to figure that out. But any report is better then none, that lets those of us that do report feel that you are sharing. Some guys don't fish in the fall and winter, e.g. I was hobbled with a broken foot this fall and never fish winter, so reports for many occur when they fish and when they can. Heck many guys including myself report skunks it happens a lot more then people like to admit. By the way Pullingdrag you were quick to come to Justin's rescue but when was the last time you made a report? That can be easily checked you know. Justin, you stated "slayed them" and yes that connotates you caught a bunch. At least in my feeble mind, I'm sure that others can envision that meant catching a few. How? I have no idea. But you could have made a simple report like "I did good and this is how, with no location whatsoever. You obviously come on the site to GET information how about GIVING some back. It takes about 5 minutes to post a report without pictures. I believe this site is as good as it is because of the sharing of information. Guys that have been on the old sites and witnessed how a few guys ruined it will fight to keep that from happening here. Put myself and others into that category.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 11:19:57 GMT -5
I think I understand why some of you guys are so upset over some of our concerns with your not reporting. I refer you to my Thread under Rules etc "Message to Lurkers". Since I started that 7 new people have posted reports, thus goal attained IMHO. Now, yes some on here have made reporting into book length and major movie productions (Yam, Mward to name a couple) and yes they are entertaining. But you don't need pictures or glossy write-ups to make a report. I don't have time for multiple pictures or movies when I'm fishing so you get a verbal report and if you don't believe it that's fine with me. Mward helps run this site and his reports IMHO draw people to it and that's a good thing. But it's not a competition of reports it's a sharing of information. If you report date and times fished, AT, WT, fish caught, (if you want to add size that's up to you) methods used I don't care about locations as I'm going to give you uplake (meaning above the bridge) or downlake. I might throw in a creek but there are only a few creeks up lake and it's not hard to figure that out. But any report is better then none, that lets those of us that do report feel that you are sharing. Some guys don't fish in the fall and winter, e.g. I was hobbled with a broken foot this fall and never fish winter, so reports for many occur when they fish and when they can. Heck many guys including myself report skunks it happens a lot more then people like to admit. By the way Pullingdrag you were quick to come to Justin's rescue but when was the last time you made a report? That can be easily checked you know. Justin, you stated "slayed them" and yes that connotates you caught a bunch. At least in my feeble mind, I'm sure that others can envision that meant catching a few. How? I have no idea. But you could have made a simple report like "I did good and this is how, with no location whatsoever. You obviously come on the site to GET information how about GIVING some back. It takes about 5 minutes to post a report without pictures. I believe this site is as good as it is because of the sharing of information. Guys that have been on the old sites and witnessed how a few guys ruined it will fight to keep that from happening here. Put myself and others into that category edited. I totally respect your thoughts here. Personally, I don't get much from the reports section myself. I see it more as entertainment. I report because it makes me strive to be better and it makes others laugh or have some fishing fun when they are tied up. I find value in the other sections of this site. Thus, I don't care who reports and don't pay too much attention to the info I read. I see SML as a changing problem solving exercise each and everyday I fish. I am just as interested in gaining value from others as I am providing value. Additionally, I don't see new members or folks that rarely fish as potential value adds and don't mind if they feel somewhat intimidated to share their knowledge that most likely isn't anything we don't already know. Tell me something I don't know and I will listen. Tell me something I already know and I just don't care. Bigun, if you didn't tell it like you smell it, you wouldn't be Bigun to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 12:08:23 GMT -5
I think I understand why some of you guys are so upset over some of our concerns with your not reporting. I refer you to my Thread under Rules etc "Message to Lurkers". Since I started that 7 new people have posted reports, thus goal attained IMHO. Now, yes some on here have made reporting into book length and major movie productions (Yam, Mward to name a couple) and yes they are entertaining. But you don't need pictures or glossy write-ups to make a report. I don't have time for multiple pictures or movies when I'm fishing so you get a verbal report and if you don't believe it that's fine with me. Mward helps run this site and his reports IMHO draw people to it and that's a good thing. But it's not a competition of reports it's a sharing of information. If you report date and times fished, AT, WT, fish caught, (if you want to add size that's up to you) methods used I don't care about locations as I'm going to give you uplake (meaning above the bridge) or downlake. I might throw in a creek but there are only a few creeks up lake and it's not hard to figure that out. But any report is better then none, that lets those of us that do report feel that you are sharing. Some guys don't fish in the fall and winter, e.g. I was hobbled with a broken foot this fall and never fish winter, so reports for many occur when they fish and when they can. Heck many guys including myself report skunks it happens a lot more then people like to admit. By the way Pullingdrag you were quick to come to Justin's rescue but when was the last time you made a report? That can be easily checked you know. Justin, you stated "slayed them" and yes that connotates you caught a bunch. At least in my feeble mind, I'm sure that others can envision that meant catching a few. How? I have no idea. But you could have made a simple report like "I did good and this is how, with no location whatsoever. You obviously come on the site to GET information how about GIVING some back. It takes about 5 minutes to post a report without pictures. I believe this site is as good as it is because of the sharing of information. Guys that have been on the old sites and witnessed how a few guys ruined it will fight to keep that from happening here. Put myself and others into that category edited. Tell me something I don't know and I will listen. Bigun, if you didn't tell it like you smell it, you wouldn't be Bigun to me. Yam, I have noticed over the years you always take the other side in hopes of making a new friend...... you don't have to sell the farm .... it's really not that hard to make friends......
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Post by smlmike on Jan 10, 2016 12:36:47 GMT -5
I get to fish about once a month Btwn Labor Day and Memorial Day, about every other weekend otherwise. I try to report no matter what. My reports will never compare to others on here, but I do take away something from most everyone's report. Mostly the DOW and technique. I agree with Bigun and John, the thread sounded as if you had been fishing a lot and doing well, while reading others information on here, and NOT sharing once what you are experiencing. They don't bite but obviously they bark. Post up your experiences !
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Post by R22 on Jan 10, 2016 13:35:05 GMT -5
Does it really encourage more participation by insisting that they must give before they receive?
Does giving generic information like, try some points off the main channel really give up your secrets? How about a simple, look for the birds.
Aside from my unconditional relationships, I believe that most relationships require participation by both parties. When one party feels they consistently give more than they receive then the quality of that relationship begins to fail.
I have put in a fair amount of time towards my own fishing education but I know I have been blessed by the knowledge in this forum. A few of you have GRACED me with your time and knowledge outside of the forum. Without the likes of Mike, Tyler, Travis and LT, I would not be experiencing the same joy I get through fishing. I am grateful and I hope that someday I am able to recognize a talent or possession I have so I may be able to reciprocate that generosity.
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