BentRod
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Post by BentRod on Jul 16, 2012 14:11:32 GMT -5
This is just something to think about during the summer months when keeping fish...
I've heard recently from several different people (a guide included) that a lot of the game wardens are either watching or asking each individual person on the boat how many fish they caught? I'd never really even thought too much about this before, but the limit is two per person. I think most everybody would assume they are safe if they have only four fish in the cooler with two people onboard. But what if you let your son reel in three fish and you reeled in only one of those four fish. Technically, you are breaking the law and could get fined. So that's just something to think about if you are stopped and asked how many of the X fish in the cooler you personally caught. I'm not advocating lying to them, but be aware of it and make your guests aware of it as you fish.
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Post by mwardncsu on Jul 16, 2012 14:15:23 GMT -5
I guess a related thing is that if you have two folks on the boat, and four fish in the cooler, then as I understand the rules, you better not still have rods out and be in the act of fishing, even if you plan to C&R the rest....
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Post by BentRod on Jul 16, 2012 14:18:13 GMT -5
I don't see why you couldn't? Is there a rule that actually states that? I would think you could still C&R, you just better not bring a fish up into the boat or then you'd be in trouble.
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Post by mwardncsu on Jul 16, 2012 14:30:13 GMT -5
You may be right.... I guess it's that last part that gets blurry for me - when are they "caught" - in the net, if you lip them, etc.... I just don't need a DGIF fine that bad to temp it...
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Post by unclaxfan on Jul 16, 2012 14:32:23 GMT -5
How bad is the fine? Most of my friends don't feel like getting a 30 dollar out-of-state 10 day license, so they press their luck, just wondering how much they're gambling
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Post by BentRod on Jul 16, 2012 14:37:42 GMT -5
You may be right.... I guess it's that last part that gets blurry for me - when are they "caught" - in the net, if you lip them, etc.... I just don't need a DGIF fine that bad to temp it... Yeah I wouldn't do it either, but I don't see why you couldn't legally, especially in the winter months. You do run the risk of guthooking one and almost being forced to throw it back dead or keep it and risk a ticket.
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Post by FishON on Jul 16, 2012 14:42:20 GMT -5
If a guide takes out two clients they can keep 6 fish. Right? But, everyone knows the guide isn't reeling in any fish.. I think these game wardens are getting a little overzealous..
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Post by Gotcha on Jul 16, 2012 14:42:39 GMT -5
I'm sure the warden that checks everything will make the world of difference! Thanks for the information and will have to keep it in mind!
I have my limit in the cooler! In that case if I switch to bottom fishing w/ Carolina rigs is that considered targeting stripers? Do they have to prove I was targeting them even though I was targeting catfish and ended up limiting on stripers! My point being, its all in the warden!!! Love there work and them keeping people honest!!
I'm one that don't keep anything unless I know for sure it isn't going to live! This is why I only target stripers in the cooler months! Might go once or twice in the summer to get my striper fix!
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Post by Administrator on Jul 16, 2012 15:03:17 GMT -5
If a guide takes out two clients they can keep 6 fish. Right? But, everyone knows the guide isn't reeling in any fish.. I think these game wardens are getting a little overzealous.. Legally, they can only keep 4 if the clients are reeling them in. That's why you have some guides that say only 4 fish and some that say 6 (based on your 2 client example). It all depends on how much they want to risk a fine. I had a guide tell me that the wardens basically tried to trick his clients into admitting they had caught more than two of the fish in the cooler even though they were legal on the number of fish in the cooler vs. number of people on the boat. Gotcha. You're exactly right that it depends on the warden! -Bentrod
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Post by mwardncsu on Jul 16, 2012 15:05:58 GMT -5
FishON - there are no special rules for the guides - the law is a 2 striper per person per day limit. It is up to the guide to decide if he/she is going to catch "their" limit that day.... I know there are some that include their limit in what comes back to the dock - then there are others that do not catch "their" personal limit, and let their clients limit out if they desire or not.
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Post by HokieChad on Jul 16, 2012 15:15:58 GMT -5
I've specifically asked the limit question to a game warden.....here is what the gist of it was.
I asked the following. What if I am fishing by myself and I already have one fish on ice in the cooler and you come by and see me land 2 fish at the same time? Am I breaking the law? He said no, as long as I get the fish back in the water. I also asked if I had to quit fishing when I reached my limit of 2 fish and he also said no.
Hope that helps.
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Post by FishON on Jul 16, 2012 15:25:04 GMT -5
FishON - there are no special rules for the guides - the law is a 2 striper per person per day limit. It is up to the guide to decide if he/she is going to catch "their" limit that day.... I know there are some that include their limit in what comes back to the dock - then there are others that do not catch "their" personal limit, and let their clients limit out if they desire or not. Interesting.. I have never gone out with a guide as a paying customer. I didn't know guides were doing it that way. I allways assumed if I saw a guide with two clients and the clients wanted to keep fish that the guide would target 6 fish for the cooler..... I guess that isn't always the case . You learn something new everyday.
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Post by catsnstripers on Jul 17, 2012 16:17:39 GMT -5
Ive heard that but havent yet been in the shoes or trickery yet. Personaly i think its stupid. 3 people in the boat. 6 fish in the cooler, release the rest. I dont see why it has to be more difficult then that.
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Post by wishforfish on Jul 17, 2012 19:57:28 GMT -5
While I agree with Travis that they should apply the KISS principle and get on with life, I was thinking back on the trips I have taken as a paying guided customer. I believe I have been on 4 trips at SML and in every case never kept more than the limit of the fishermen, guide not included. In fact I don't remember a time when we kept fish that individuals caught outside of their personal limit applied to another anglers limit.
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Post by drinva on Jul 18, 2012 9:31:59 GMT -5
You can catch as many as you want, you can keep only 2 per person, if you keep fishing after the limit is reached (2 per person IN the livewell), all fish must be released at boat side and not brought into the boat.
That was the way I understood it.
DR
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