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Post by jb4sml on Dec 20, 2012 21:05:42 GMT -5
From: gillscreek@aol.com To: Ggawor@aol.com, vgardner@visitsmithmountainlake.com, bayrocmarina@verizon.net Sent: 12/20/2012 4:19:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Please distribute immediately to all concerned and follow the distribution lists that led to the successful Trinity meeting
I was in a meeting today with FERC, AEP, and Bill Brush (CURB). At 2:45 it was announced by AEP that they have agreed with the State Agencies as to a variance that will start at midnight tonight. 335 CFS will be released and it will stay that way until 795 is again reached. Auto cycle has been reduced from 6 to 5. This is a significant accomplishment brought about by a positive and constructive approach coupled with a huge turnout on December 5 at Trinity. In my opinion, the best that could be done while remaining fair and balanced. Congratulations to all! A great exercise in citizenship. Thank you to AEP and to the State Agencies. Please do not forget that: (1) SMLA is forming a water level\release committee and that volunteers are needed. Contact Russ Johnson (RussJohnson@smlassociation.org) with any questions or submittals, and (2) applications are needed from qualified people who want to be considered for the State Water Control Board. Again, contact Russ with any questions or send him your resume and he will forwarded it to the appropriate Richmond Representative. Feedback is important, so please try to get this to all who were at Trinity Russ Johnson
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Post by mytoyzfishing on Dec 20, 2012 22:53:12 GMT -5
This is great news. And coupled with tonight's rain and forcasted rain in the near future hopefully things will start to turn around.
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Post by mwardncsu on Dec 20, 2012 23:15:37 GMT -5
Let it Rain, Let it Rain, Let it Rain...... or snow, or drizzle a whole lot....
THanks for posting the above info jb4sml!
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Post by wishforfish on Dec 21, 2012 22:27:10 GMT -5
Can anyone please explain the meaning of the post relatively speaking? I understand "335 CFS will be released and it will stay that way until 795 is again reached. Auto cycle has been reduced from 6 to 5." but I don't know what that is compared to what has been happening to make a relative comparison of the agreement with the current policy. Very happy and appreciative that progress was made though! Thanks to any that can clarify... Read more: smlfishingforums.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=536&page=2#ixzz2FkPdCTDg
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Post by mwardncsu on Dec 21, 2012 23:17:27 GMT -5
I don't understand the "auto cycle reduced from 6 to 5" - wonder if that has to do with the amount they drain for generation and then pump back? As to the downstream - about a month ago when it really started looking bad, it was around 450 CFS average leaving Leesville - but at the time we only had about 350ish coming into SML..... so it was a loosing battle. Around or just after Thanksgiving they seemed to dial it back a little to about 400 CFS leaving Leesville. Even when we had no rain in days, it seemed the incoming amount to SML was about 350 - so hopefully with a reduction to 335 we will not lose any more and actually start to make back up when we have rain events. Today at 5am the "average" incoming was 522 CFS and outgoing was 322. Not sure how they calculate what comes into SML - there are two main entry points and lots of creeks, springs, etc - perhaps it is calculated based on what is known going out of Leesville and the levels (but then again, Leesville has incoming flows of some amount as well) - so I don't know - may just be what is measured at Niagra and the rest is gravy.... The inflow / outflow can be found towards the bottom of this page on AEP's website: www.aep.com/environment/conservation/hydro/
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Post by CorneliaGale on Dec 21, 2012 23:59:27 GMT -5
They have several meters on the river, know there is one at the 13th bridge in SE, it hangs off the bridge and they check it and record the readings, I found the website one time think it was on NOAA GEO or something like that. Also had some for upstream river too.
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Post by wishforfish on Dec 28, 2012 0:00:35 GMT -5
OK maybe I don't understand what I thought I did. I will regress and hope someone can educate my simple mind. What does this mean in basic terms and how is it affecting things or helping? I would have thought that the lake would have come up more in the past couple of days and while it did some, the drops and lack of significant changes confuses me. Can anyone explains what the arrangement means?
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Post by mwardncsu on Dec 28, 2012 5:58:42 GMT -5
Well, it has been coming up. Until the other day the inflows were just above (around 350ish when we were not getting rain) va the outflow of 320ish, so we were not losing ground but not gaining much.
Yesterday the inflow was about 2200 - this am about 1100. I guess there is a lot of lake to fill... And maybe they are taking advantage of the "extra" water to generate into Leesville - which should pump back. SML is 790.6 and the "adjusted" (level is all the pump back water was in SML vs Leesville) is 790.9, which is the highest I've seen it in many weeks now.
I guess we didn't get here overnight and won't fix it over night - let's hope we keep getting some steady rains frequently for a while.
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Post by wishforfish on Dec 30, 2012 19:23:11 GMT -5
Nice spike in the level today, I hope it keeps up. ;D
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