New line

[greenmonster]

Found a new line I really like and may extend my season this year. Rio outbound short sinking line. Drops like a meteor through the water column and opens up fish suspended in 40-50 feet. With a little patience and a heavier fly, it will fish deeper.

[formula180]

So the Out Bound is a WF floating line with the 30 foot fast sink tip option I assume you are talking about.

Rio's Versi Tip also looks interesting with the different weighted tips that can be added to the line for fishing different depths. Their line is expensive which is more that I paid this week for a used Orvis Green Mountain 9wt rod with fighting butt.

Versi Tip

Hope I get moved to the lake next year so I can fish every day. If not, I am buying a lot of lures and equipment for nothing.

[greenmonster]

Nov 19, 2014 0:19:07 GMT -5 formula180 said:

So the Out Bound is a WF floating line with the 30 foot fast sink tip option I assume you are talking about.

Rio's Versi Tip also looks interesting with the different weighted tips that can be added to the line for fishing different depths. Their line is expensive which is more that I paid this week for a used Orvis Green Mountain 9wt rod with fighting butt.

Versi Tip

Hope I get moved to the lake next year so I can fish every day. If not, I am buying a lot of lures and equipment for nothing.

Actually it is a full sinking line - Look at the WF9I/S6 375Gram version. Intermediate running line and 30 feet of basically lead. You don't have to false cast it more than once, and you'll shoot the entire line out. Pretty amazing line, but VERY different to cast. For deep fish, a heavy fly will get it down incredibly deep incredibly fast, in fact, at least one of "our" Stripers (his of course) was caught while he had the line still, straight down below the boat, simply bumping the fly occasionally. In shallower water, a floating fly gets dragged down but stays above the logs and timber and that was the ticket to last Sunday's fish.


The Rio line is expensive, but I'd take it any day over a comparable Orvis line. I've got a clear intermediate from Orvis and I spend more time untangling it than fishing, even after stretching it out. It will be better when I'm in Florida, though, where the heat will eliminate some of the memory.

Here's a link to where I bought it - great people to deal with and incredibly fast shipping. My first line had a nick in it, I had a new line the next day no questions asked.

www.americanflyfishing.com/Fly+Fishing/Fly+Lines/Rio+OutBound+Short+Fly+Line.html

[mwardncsu]

Nov 19, 2014 9:43:03 GMT -5 greenmonster said:

in fact, at least one of "our" Stripers (his of course) was caught while he had the line still, straight down below the boat, simply bumping the fly occasionally.

That's called jigging

[greenmonster]

Tomato Tomahto, right?. Don't confuse the weapon of choice with having any purist standards - I was busy rubbing a dead shad all over my fly in desperation the other day. Jigging? That's politically incorrect language for exactly the same action on a longer rod. We call it "stripping in line". A rose by any other name!

[formula180]

I think you misread my reply...Orvis Green Mountain 9 foot, 9WT FLY ROD...

I am thinking a longer fly rod may also be helpful.  Were you using the Game Changer fly?

I also bought a Okuma SLV 1011 reel which is huge but it should be able to take in a lot of line fast.  I am wondering how unbalanced the rod will be.

[greenmonster]

Yep - that's what I get for skimming! Sorry about that. Congratulations on your purchase! That's a great fly rod and it sounds like you got a hell of a deal on it. I also looked at the Okuma reels - they are good looking and I don't think you'll be too unbalanced.

I was using the game changer, but the fish that was caught was on this fly. Of all the fish we've caught, this fly has accounted for the most bites and most fish. www.cabelas.com/product/Todds-Wiggle-Minnow/743193.uts

He's caught fish on it on top - literally just leaving it still while the stripers were busting all around it, popping it, and on Sunday on a sinking line that dragged it down. I'll be tying up a few once I get my hands on the materials.

[bigj]

Rio Outbound is a good line. My main lines are a Rio Outbound 10wt Intermediate Line and a Rio Striped Bass Line with a 450 grain sink tip. The 450 grain line gets the fly down in a hurry.

[greenmonster]

My problem these days is that I need more spare spools for my flylines. Jeez, why is a BVK 3 spare reel spool $160?? that's nuts.

[bigj]

I plan on picking up another 10 wt soon. Probably will be a Redington Predator. Have had good experiences with them. You ever look at the Kraken fly reels from Allen Fly Fishing? I think that'll be my next reel as well.

[formula180]

OK...what am I missing here.  You need a reel to hold the line and a good smooth adjustable drag.  So what else is required that makes the reel more expensive then the rod in some cases.

Also the spare spools need to be a reasonable price and not a few dollars less than a complete reel.

[bigj]

Nov 27, 2014 11:15:48 GMT -5 formula180 said:

OK...what am I missing here.  You need a reel to hold the line and a good smooth adjustable drag.  So what else is required that makes the reel more expensive then the rod in some cases.

Also the spare spools need to be a reasonable price and not a few dollars less than a complete reel.

What is your price range on a reel? For trout a reel is nothing more than a glorified line holder. I use old cheap, indestructible click pawl reels for trout. Striper you want a nice reel because it is nice to put them on a reel. Nice fly reels are milled, not cast, which make them expensive. I have an Albright GPX reel which has treated me good.

[greenmonster]

Nov 27, 2014 12:09:51 GMT -5 bigj said:

Nov 27, 2014 11:15:48 GMT -5 formula180 said:

OK...what am I missing here.  You need a reel to hold the line and a good smooth adjustable drag.  So what else is required that makes the reel more expensive then the rod in some cases.

Also the spare spools need to be a reasonable price and not a few dollars less than a complete reel.

What is your price range on a reel? For trout a reel is nothing more than a glorified line holder. I use old cheap, indestructible click pawl reels for trout. Striper you want a nice reel because it is nice to put them on a reel. Nice fly reels are milled, not cast, which make them expensive. I have an Albright GPX reel which has treated me good.

Formula 180 - you are absolutely right. Flyreels are 99% of the time glorified line holders and rod jewelry. Unfortunately, two things caused me to splurge on this reel (but I only paid half price for it thanks to Craigslist!).

1) I use this in saltwater, so I need something that can stand the abuse that saltwater causes.
2) When in Saltwater, I have a shot at some fish that will absolutely melt the drag and warp the spools of lower quality reels. Or they might. OR I hope they might. The reality is, this reel might melt just as fast or faster than something 1/3rd the price.

Mostly, those were my way of rationalizing buying something that made me happy to own.