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Post by mytoyzfishing on Jul 14, 2013 17:39:21 GMT -5
Mark - plenty of storage on that pontoon of yours - not so much on the bass boat  One of the reason's I am still struggaling with that decision  |
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Post by Pete D. on Apr 21, 2014 16:03:16 GMT -5
So, I was just wondering fellas, anyone tried the pocket hose (expandable) for this purpose? They are cheap and space savers. I was thinking that you could toss the pump into the water and hold the end until the hose fills up with water, then start filling her up.
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 21, 2014 16:06:12 GMT -5
I believe you need a nozzle on the hose to create pressure to expand it - though I guess you're saying let weight of the pump pull it down to expand.... interesting..... The downside is going to be the diameter of the hose and how much water volume it can flow - but might be work a try, it should would be dealing with 40-50' of garden hose on the boat.....
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Post by archenemy on Apr 21, 2014 18:23:24 GMT -5
I copied mikes set up after using a 1200 gph pump and 5/8 garden hose for a couple of years. So once I got the 2000 running with the pool hose I was curious to see how old 5/8 garden hose would work with the bigger pump. The 5/8 took 4 to 5 times longer to fill the tank. The pool hose fills my 40 gal tank in about 5 minutes at a depth of 20 feet
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Post by Pete D. on Apr 21, 2014 19:11:29 GMT -5
Mike I thought the same thing about the nozzle. Arch I'm just going to go fishing with you at Anna from now on...... Thanks for the feedback!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 17:13:08 GMT -5
Mward, If you fill your insulated tank with 65 degree water, on average how much ice do you need to keep things good in the summer??
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 29, 2014 17:21:40 GMT -5
Honestly I can't remember - I'm pretty sure once I put this together I'd just do a water change with more deep water.... Need to remove the "bad" water anyway - if I fished two days over a weekend is usually change it sometime mid day and again late in the day.
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Post by Pete D. on Apr 30, 2014 19:16:59 GMT -5
Yam, lotsa guys drop frozen soda bottles in the filter side of the SBT tanks. Ive heard one or two bottles in there all day plus one water change does the trick.
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Post by BentRod on May 1, 2014 6:14:32 GMT -5
Mward, If you fill your insulated tank with 65 degree water, on average how much ice do you need to keep things good in the summer?? The reality is if you're not running shad and ales together, you probably don't need to add too much ice. I'm a firm believer that cleaning the filter and scales out very often in the summer and piling the salt to the ales does way more than changing the water temp if you start with water in 60s. A bag maybe mid afternoon at most..but that videos advice is good..don't shock them. If your bait gets darker on their backs, get new bait. Alewives are much much easier to maintain than shad. Shad and ales do not like each other in warm water. I don't recommend running them together in the tank past about mid June. I usually don't even mess with shad after that either as ales will be your best bet. You can fish bigger shad, but you'll catch a lot less and I seriously don't want to catch anything over 12lbs in the summer..I hate killing big fish. And believe me, we're killing fish in water over 75deg whether we release them or not. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 8:12:56 GMT -5
Mward, If you fill your insulated tank with 65 degree water, on average how much ice do you need to keep things good in the summer?? The reality is if you're not running shad and ales together, you probably don't need to add too much ice. I'm a firm believer that cleaning the filter and scales out very often in the summer and piling the salt to the ales does way more than changing the water temp if you start with water in 60s. A bag maybe mid afternoon at most..but that videos advice is good..don't shock them. If your bait gets darker on their backs, get new bait. Alewives are much much easier to maintain than shad. Shad and ales do not like each other in warm water. I don't recommend running them together in the tank past about mid June. I usually don't even mess with shad after that either as ales will be your best bet. You can fish bigger shad, but you'll catch a lot less and I seriously don't want to catch anything over 12lbs in the summer..I hate killing big fish. And believe me, we're killing fish in water over 75deg whether we release them or not. Thanks Bentrod..good stuff! Honestly, I am not sure I plan to fish in the summer anyway. I just want to ride around with lively bait. I'm with you, I hate killing big fish and if you catch one in the summer its probably a goner. Thus, the only option is to catch smaller fish which is not desirable either now that I have the Mongo blues: Turn it up!!: I got the Smith Mountain... I got the Smith Mountain Mongo Blu ueees.... I got the Smith Mountain.. I got the Smith Mountain Mongo Blu ueees... Ugly little creatures swimming in my mind... Spend my money don't know what to do ooooo... Modify by live well... Analyze some chemistry eeee... Complicate simple things... Turning facts into fallacy eeee... Ugly little creatures swimming in my mind... Throw my net on my newborn baby eeee... |
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Post by striperjohn on May 4, 2014 7:25:00 GMT -5
LOL, hey Yam! I'll bet you're very a very familiar face with the Psychiatry department over there huh? LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 16:19:45 GMT -5
MWard, some questions.
I bought all the goodies to do this. I'm thinking I will cut one of the pool hoses so that only about 1 foot is connected to the pump. This will leave a pool hose end on the pump to connect to and will provide me the ability to break everything down into smaller components without having to deal with unscrewing clamps. It seems that putting together two ends is easy with the Barb/Barb fitting and is secure?
Secondly, what type of wiring did you use? I could easily use an old 15 amp extension cord but that has 1 unneeded wire.
Finally, how do the Delphi connectors work? Waterproof? I'm thinking about using a tm plug where the male end simply has these connectors attached to a few inches of wire. I could then easily swap out the male between my bait tank pump and this pump.
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Post by mwardncsu on Jun 10, 2015 17:55:31 GMT -5
I did similar - the first section long enough to pump from a little below surface to the tank - I use that from Oct to May. Then I add a section that gets me around 20-25' total length - and can add one more section for about 35' which is plenty for the worst of the summer.
Each section of hose has a male and female connector - so I can mix and match the sections. I use the nylon male/male barb connectors that you'd find in the plumbing section at Lowes or Home Depot. They fit my hose well - can pull apart but they don't just fall off. Plus, the wire and connectors will help it all together
I used 14 ga (I think - might be 16 ga) lamp cord wire if I recall correctly. No reason an old extension cord won't work - just might get some water in the jacket insulation....
The Delphi connectors work well. Seem to be fully waterproof - at least for the durations the pump is in the water.
Still using alligator plugs to apply power from cranking battery. I did have the heat shrink / crimp terminate on one rust out the other week and had to replace the ring terminal used to connect to the alligator clip - but otherwise ots holding up well. I do want to replace the clips with some type of trolling motor plug / socket and hardware the female socket on the boat side.
One suggestion - use power from your cranking battery and run the big motor when running that pump - you'll get a few more volts and this the pump will run a bit faster - this quicker fill / empty times.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 19:01:41 GMT -5
I did similar - the first section long enough to pump from a little below surface to the tank - I use that from Oct to May. Then I add a section that gets me around 20-25' total length - and can add one more section for about 35' which is plenty for the worst of the summer. Each section of hose has a male and female connector - so I can mix and match the sections. I use the nylon male/male barb connectors that you'd find in the plumbing section at Lowes or Home Depot. They fit my hose well - can pull apart but they don't just fall off. Plus, the wire and connectors will help it all together I used 14 ga (I think - might be 16 ga) lamp cord wire if I recall correctly. No reason an old extension cord won't work - just might get some water in the jacket insulation.... The Delphi connectors work well. Seem to be fully waterproof - at least for the durations the pump is in the water. Still using alligator plugs to apply power from cranking battery. I did have the heat shrink / crimp terminate on one rust out the other week and had to replace the ring terminal used to connect to the alligator clip - but otherwise ots holding up well. I do want to replace the clips with some type of trolling motor plug / socket and hardware the female socket on the boat side. One suggestion - use power from your cranking battery and run the big motor when running that pump - you'll get a few more volts and this the pump will run a bit faster - this quicker fill / empty times. Thanks. Since those Delphi connectors are wproof, I'm thinking each section of hose would come rigged with a male and female Delphi and secured wiring. Scalable, robust and a total waste of time for someone who does not fish in the summer!  |
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Post by mwardncsu on Jun 10, 2015 19:29:05 GMT -5
Correct on making the sections of hose with a male/female end and secured wiring.
And something tells me we'll be seeing what the Wolf can see at 30'-50'
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