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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 17:28:27 GMT -5
My bait tank is right behind my driver seat and is built into the boat. It is 35 gallons, oval and painted light blue on the inside. There is a good pump that pumps water in constantly and there is an air intake on the side. With the Mongos, the shad slime builds up in the outlet drain on top of the water line and I just simply remove a screen and wash it out every hour or so.
This tank has been keeping my bait lively (since November) and sometimes I use my raw water wash down to spray in a few blasts of water on the top as it seems to add even more oxygen and I just like to play with the little buggers before I rip their noses to hell.
My question is, will this work in the summer? Or will I have to think about doing a closed loop? Any ideas comments or suggestions are most welcomed.
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Post by Brian on Apr 2, 2014 17:52:14 GMT -5
I had to add a recirc pump with a rigged up filter using a pvc pipe and polyfill. I use frozen water bottles and lots of salt.
You just can't pump in hot lake water and expect the bait to survive.
That was on my old boat... I'm going to have to either do the same thing on my new boat or maybe just get a real bait tank. I have the room now, but I don't really fish enough in the summer to justify buying a tank. I just can't stand all of the traffic in the summer.
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 2, 2014 18:01:46 GMT -5
Definately do not pump surface water in once temps get up above maybe mid-70's. Hope you have it can add a recirc pump. Fill with cold water (within 5-10 degrees max delta of where you will fish your bait) / keep cool with block ice or frozen bottles as Brian mentions. Salt and good aeration with the recirc (danco Venturi).
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Post by striperjohn on Apr 2, 2014 18:03:34 GMT -5
Hey yam once the water temps get over 65 it becomes very difficult to keep shad alive by simply recycling the water. With alewives it is even more difficult. A closed system in an insulated tank is very hard starting in mid June. Adding ice helps but taking bait from 65 degree water into 80 well to say the least is tough to keep them sassy on the hook.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 18:07:32 GMT -5
Is it the heat of the water or the lack of oxygen or both that kills shad? I would think big shad might be okay but ales and herring don't stand a chance.
I don't fish in the summer that much either but I am sure I will now. I am interested to see if deep stripers will hit mongos on downlines right next to jet skiiers. On Anna, if you could find the schools in the summer, the boat traffic actually helped to keep them in one spot and you could jig them up in the most awkward places. That is if you could find their hiding spots that changed on a daily basis.
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 2, 2014 18:11:26 GMT -5
I think it's both - but the main thing is that ammonia is more deadly at warmer temps - with a good aerator the oxygen is not trly and issue but you'll still have mortality with warmer water. Plus, keep in mind that down 20-30' the water is in the 70's compared to high 70s to 80s on the surface where you are drawing your water with a surface intake - so you are also temp shocking them more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 18:17:08 GMT -5
Definately do not pump surface water in once temps get up above maybe mid-70's. Hope you have it can add a recirc pump. Fill with cold water (within 5-10 degrees max delta of where you will fish your bait) / keep cool with block ice or frozen bottles as Brian mentions. Salt and good aeration with the recirc (danco Venturi). I am thinking I can create a loop between my inlet (which is halfway up in the water column) and either my drain or my outlet (which is on top). I will need some filtration as well..right? The tank is somewhat insulated in that there is a fiberglass core but the lid is just gel coat. Hmmmmm. Maybe I can bring her by sometime Mike and see what you think in person. There is a decent amount of room under my seat that I can play with in terms of modifications and the batteries are right there as well.
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Post by BentRod on Apr 2, 2014 21:02:28 GMT -5
I'd go closed loop all the time. It's just better. Salt is your friend. There's probably a way to add a filter and a Danncco will help loads too.
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Post by mwardncsu on Apr 2, 2014 21:05:16 GMT -5
Yam - yeah, we could take a look and come up with some type of solution.....
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Post by Pete D. on Apr 17, 2014 16:19:03 GMT -5
Hahahaha, agreed! I have some good summer time go-to spots. I also use a small mesh net in the summer and the smaller bait seem to stay alive longer in my well. Up until now, all I have used there is a recycle pump, and the smaller baits (3-4") seem to make it through mid morning. Normally in the summer, all my bait is gone before most of it is dead anyways due to the hungry fish. Maybe one day Ill see ya on Anna! Thats my stompin ground.
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